soyedu 19 Posted March 8 so now it is time to lvl up ur own life in real life, example, i have a coffe shop so im cleaning dishes T T 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 17 hours ago, Joao Fonteles said: Since BS nerfed in PvP, Atalanta should be adjusted as well, she's the most broken character in PvP right now, has insane speed and is incredibly tank.. The Divine cleansing T5 Prs skill also needs fixing in PvP, if 2-3 Prs support a pure player he becomes completely immortal. So as I said earlier, BS and ATA both OP AF. And when I said ata is much superior to FS no one listened to me And as the time passes by, when I be quiet, eventually the rest of the players catch up. Always. In every single balance suggestion I have delivered. Now for another topic - AS is not weak. For team fights and SW obviously strong yes. In 1v1 she needs to give up armor, go hp+ agi build and she will be strong. Just AS players compare themselves to ata who's god tier, like BS, and think all the melees are BS tier power lvl. Now let's see how long it will take everyone to grasp that. Cheers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 13 hours ago, HollyShot said: Imagine change to brawler to abuse this broken class just to be nerf in the same week, i would be mad too. Btw just to refresh, brawler is not just slightly broken, and needs a huge nerf. Heavy fist a skill from tier 1, no cooldown, with dash, and hit kill (dmg over 2.4k) Headcrush, no cooldown, also a hit kill skill (dmg over 2.5k+) Pummel, no cooldown, 3 hits skill each of the hits over 2k dmg. At the same time, you can't stum this class (block with force belt) and if u stum, wont last more then 2 seconds (organic attribute) Raise octagon it's anti-game skill that last too much. Otara challenge is a broken debuff that has no cooldown. Her defensive side is the most stupid, with VL this class has over 2.8k hp, too much damage reduction, too much block, and force belt cooldown is too fast. If the nerf is just like -2% block, the balance of this class still going to be a joke. Atalanta is in the same tier of FS and above other classes (execept Brawler that is above all), so it's fair to nerf her a bit. But probably if nerf atalanta and keep FS the same, this class would be the new king of wartale. I think it's more profit for all to buff the other classes. MS will be buff, so it's ok AS will change only her debuff, still going to be garb, the problem of this class is her inability to kill (miss too much) and to tank (can't use shield or lose evd). ASS is fine, i would just slightly improve her defensive side allowing her to use a shield of her spec. ATA should nerf a bit amazon cooldown. FS is ok, but has a chance to become the new king. PS is ok. KS is ok, but i would say divine piercing should be better. MG/PRS/SS are ok. My feedback about balance rn, needs many changes. KS is ok in PvP? In what world? Super low 1v1 dmg, he can't kill with 1h- even low hp glass cannon chars. 2h- still relatively low dmg. Can tank yes. No special defence without shield, low block. Still slow attack speed of GC in both 1h and 2h. How he's fine in PvP? KS is with the weaker ones. And FS same tier as ata? Really? Not a single other player thinks so. Everyone put ata on the same tier as BS. FS is nothing special, and is literally weaker than SS in every PvP aspect except 1v1 full buffs on. All the rest ( even duels) go to SS. Ofc BS and ATA are superior. And u will be surprise, but FS vs mage no buffs is an interesting match up. When mage is supposed to excell in SW and be a ranged support+ some dmg from range. FS gets his edge only at full buff gameplay. Idk what u call class balance, but u are extremely off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,057 Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: KS is ok in PvP? In what world? Super low 1v1 dmg, he can't kill with 1h- even low hp glass cannon chars. 2h- still relatively low dmg. Can tank yes. No special defence without shield, low block. Still slow attack speed of GC in both 1h and 2h. How he's fine in PvP? KS is with the weaker ones. And FS same tier as ata? Really? Not a single other player thinks so. Everyone put ata on the same tier as BS. FS is nothing special, and is literally weaker than SS in every PvP aspect except 1v1 full buffs on. All the rest ( even duels) go to SS. Ofc BS and ATA are superior. And u will be surprise, but FS vs mage no buffs is an interesting match up. When mage is supposed to excell in SW and be a ranged support+ some dmg from range. FS gets his edge only at full buff gameplay. Idk what u call class balance, but u are extremely off. what do you know? you dont play this game lol last time you came here you said ms was better than fs. waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 2,251 Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: KS is ok in PvP? In what world? Super low 1v1 dmg, he can't kill with 1h- even low hp glass cannon chars. 2h- still relatively low dmg. Can tank yes. No special defence without shield, low block. Still slow attack speed of GC in both 1h and 2h. How he's fine in PvP? KS is with the weaker ones. And FS same tier as ata? Really? Not a single other player thinks so. Everyone put ata on the same tier as BS. FS is nothing special, and is literally weaker than SS in every PvP aspect except 1v1 full buffs on. All the rest ( even duels) go to SS. Ofc BS and ATA are superior. And u will be surprise, but FS vs mage no buffs is an interesting match up. When mage is supposed to excell in SW and be a ranged support+ some dmg from range. FS gets his edge only at full buff gameplay. Idk what u call class balance, but u are extremely off. You are right what u saying about KS. He sux alot in 1vs1 and is just a good Chara in Team War. Ata really op but also is only good in same number Wars because she can destroy any class. Her real problem here is that she is to fast. She should not recive a full Speed buff from SS because here she start to be fully broken. Need also add that u need to be a good player to know how to play her otherwise she is easy to beat. Her Split should have a longer cooldown. With that i think she will be balanced BS we dont need to lie to each other, this class is just broken in any aspect. A big nerf would be sad for it because this class could end up like Ms. I Hope the admins knew how to balance it FS tbh is balanced and not OP. Very low Def and can easy die by lower lvls Pikes, Assasins BS etc. Same goes for him u really need know how to play it to let this class shine. There are many players who prefer other classes. If i speak about me i like to kill and fast Game Play + use more combos and have a HK Skill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merenda 1,050 Posted March 8 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mjizzy_7 said: You are right what u saying about KS. He sux alot in 1vs1 and is just a good Chara in Team War. Ata really op but also is only good in same number Wars because she can destroy any class. Her real problem here is that she is to fast. She should not recive a full Speed buff from SS because here she start to be fully broken. Need also add that u need to be a good player to know how to play her otherwise she is easy to beat. Her Split should have a longer cooldown. With that i think she will be balanced BS we dont need to lie to each other, this class is just broken in any aspect. A big nerf would be sad for it because this class could end up like Ms. I Hope the admins knew how to balance it FS tbh is balanced and not OP. Very low Def and can easy die by lower lvls Pikes, Assasins BS etc. Same goes for him u really need know how to play it to let this class shine. There are many players who prefer other classes. If i speak about me i like to kill and fast Game Play + use more combos and have a HK Skill. tbh KS is an stun class, but not atm. Lightning Sword is bugged, we all hope the hotfix on this update. Yeah, there's no reason for being KS nowadays on PvP terms. You can simply triple (literally) your lethality changing to Brawler. Edited March 8 by Merenda 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,820 Posted March 8 29 minutes ago, Mjizzy_7 said: BS we dont need to lie to each other, this class is just broken in any aspect. A big nerf would be sad for it because this class could end up like Ms. I Hope the admins knew how to balance it even if brawler had 0 dmg reduction she would be stronger than Ms. she has pretty much guaranteed kill whenever retalliation activates, she can block finishers with force belt and counter shock, she has a ton of hp and block, penetreation and AR from otara, dmg reduction. brawler is an absolute cancer to current pvp, no class, not even ata with amazon rage as broken as it is, comes remotely comparable to her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
disable1000 563 Posted March 8 Don't worry guys, i think they will give change class discount promo for a few days to test the patch and see the community feedbacks like they did before 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHATISAMAN? 86 Posted March 8 (edited) If they don’t apply a nerf that actually makes BS balanced, at least put a discount on the class change so everyone can change to BS. Edited March 8 by WHATISAMAN? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1533 150 Posted March 8 (edited) Vídeos speak Loide e than words. Here an exemple of a player who taking advantage for years of how Unbalanced this class is, 17x FS dies like a piece of paper. Draw your own conclusions.. Edited March 8 by 1533 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,057 Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, 1533 said: Vídeos speak Loide e than words. Here an exemple of a player who taking advantage for years of how Unbalanced this class is, 17x FS dies like a piece of paper. Draw your own conclusions.. not any atalanta, but thanks for sharing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
disable1000 563 Posted March 8 (edited) 26 minutes ago, 1533 said: Vídeos speak Loide e than words. Here an exemple of a player who taking advantage for years of how Unbalanced this class is, 17x FS dies like a piece of paper. Draw your own conclusions.. Hey bro its a group pvp, its not 1v1, you can also see its 170 atalanta with SOD gold, giraffe , beard, shaman buff at the same time she is not the only one hitting the fighters as well. That ata also have the champion class evade buff so it helps him to tank more than regular ata without the champion buff. Maybe better to provide a 1 v 1 video clip that is more convincing to say that ata is OP class than fighter. In my opinion they are on the same tier at the moment but brawler is on other level ever since. The only thing that ata more advantage than fs is that its a ranger class.. it can hit damage before enemy can come closer. Edited March 8 by disable1000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 2 hours ago, HollyShot said: what do you know? you dont play this game lol last time you came here you said ms was better than fs. waste of time. I do log in once in a while. And it's not that they updated the PvP balance since I was playing actively. And MS was better than FS before he was nerfed at PvP. U just don't like that I drop truth bombs, because it doesn't fit ur agenda. Here, above, 17x FS dies like nothing to that ata. And it's not superior gameplay. It's purely using an OP class with super high attack speed, AR and nice crit doesn't make one pro. Heck FS lacks in every aspect which isn't 1v1 ( PvP wise). Meaning, he needs, and suppose to excel in 1v1 cases. It's literally written in his description. And what he is? Just mediocre. Freaking SS/ mage can own them in a no buffs fights. I suppose a close ranged 1v1 type char should not lose to a ranged support in a close battle. 2 hours ago, Mjizzy_7 said: You are right what u saying about KS. He sux alot in 1vs1 and is just a good Chara in Team War. Ata really op but also is only good in same number Wars because she can destroy any class. Her real problem here is that she is to fast. She should not recive a full Speed buff from SS because here she start to be fully broken. Need also add that u need to be a good player to know how to play her otherwise she is easy to beat. Her Split should have a longer cooldown. With that i think she will be balanced BS we dont need to lie to each other, this class is just broken in any aspect. A big nerf would be sad for it because this class could end up like Ms. I Hope the admins knew how to balance it FS tbh is balanced and not OP. Very low Def and can easy die by lower lvls Pikes, Assasins BS etc. Same goes for him u really need know how to play it to let this class shine. There are many players who prefer other classes. If i speak about me i like to kill and fast Game Play + use more combos and have a HK Skill. Ata might make u feel like it needs gameplay but: Super high attack speed, high AR, nice crit. No 2h, just shield.high deff cause of how agi based char works ( armor). Nice evade( buff), block of shield always on( nice block). So her DPS are insane, she's likely to hit and crit, while her opponents are unlikely to hit her. Using superior stats meaning being OP. No gameplay required. The fact that she moves fast doesn't change much, u just gotta click on pots faster, it's not even a gameplay. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrzero 128 Posted March 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: Using superior stats meaning being OP. No gameplay required. The fact that she moves fast doesn't change much, u just gotta click on pots faster, it's not even a gameplay. did u play ata in pvp ? clown Edited March 8 by Mrzero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Mrzero said: did u play ata ? clown If u can't grasp what I said- you are the clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nameless10 224 Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: If u can't grasp what I said- you are the clown. You back again spitting nonsense, go play ata i own you with my FS noob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,057 Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, Mrzero said: did u play ata in pvp ? clown He can’t, and he doesn’t play the game his opinion usually is the opposite of how it works that’s why he thinks ms> fs and now thinks that mg and shaman are better too or that fs is a bad class for sw but he is just bad and that’s why he get raped by all these classes when used to play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 1 minute ago, HollyShot said: He can’t, and he doesn’t play the game his opinion usually is the opposite of how it works that’s why he thinks ms> fs and now thinks that mg and shaman are better too or that fs is a bad class for sw but he is just bad and that’s why he get raped by all these classes when used to play MS was superior back then. U might not wanna admit it, but he was. And yes, in a 1v1 no buffs, SS is clearly superior till this patch. And Mage is debateable, rather close match with a smart mage. And no, I completely destroyed everyone, even higher lvl, in the days I used to duel. Especially with SS, but my FS was pretty good too. You can paint ur nose red, and claim the nonsense u want. If u think FS is on par with BS/ ata that is. Which u did think FS was on par with BS. What a joke. 7 minutes ago, nameless10 said: You back again spitting nonsense, go play ata i own you with my FS noob. Who the F are you? 3rd rate losers who protect OP mechanics in a game which is supposed to be for fun. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nameless10 224 Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: MS was superior back then. U might not wanna admit it, but he was. And yes, in a 1v1 no buffs, SS is clearly superior till this patch. And Mage is debateable, rather close match with a smart mage. And no, I completely destroyed everyone, even higher lvl, in the days I used to duel. Especially with SS, but my FS was pretty good too. You can paint ur nose red, and claim the nonsense u want. If u think FS is on par with BS/ ata that is. Which u did think FS was on par with BS. What a joke. Who the F are you? 3rd rate losers who protect OP mechanics in a game which is supposed to be for fun. Pathetic. Noob, your nonsense as you used to be, i can't forget you talking assassin will win against pikeman 1 v 1. What a low IQ observation. I can 10-0 your assassin anytime against my pike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 520 Posted March 8 Just now, nameless10 said: Noob, your nonsense as you used to be, i can't forget you talking assassin will win against pikeman 1 v 1. What a low IQ observation. I can 10-0 your assassin anytime against my pike. And u probablly didn't, and kept losing. It's amazing how in all the years I'm in ur head. While I for real don't remember you, but remembering that I destroyed every pike Still sore? Do u need a hug to ease up the pain? Tell me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,057 Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: MS was superior back then. U might not wanna admit it, but he was. And yes, in a 1v1 no buffs, SS is clearly superior till this patch. And Mage is debateable, rather close match with a smart mage. And no, I completely destroyed everyone, even higher lvl, in the days I used to duel. Especially with SS, but my FS was pretty good too. You can paint ur nose red, and claim the nonsense u want. If u think FS is on par with BS/ ata that is. Which u did think FS was on par with BS. What a joke. Who the F are you? 3rd rate losers who protect OP mechanics in a game which is supposed to be for fun. Pathetic. Ms was superior like 5 years ago, don’t pretend your opinion was right last year And fs is superior to mg and ss same tier of atalanta, right below bs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kagome 23 Posted March 8 but whats the best class in PVE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites