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[nameless10 224]

1 minute ago, TigerShark22 said:

And u probablly didn't, and kept losing.

 

It's amazing how in all the years I'm in ur head. While I for real don't remember you, but remembering that I  destroyed every pike

 

 

Still sore? 

 

 

Do u need a hug to ease up the pain? Tell me

Ofcourse you can destroy every pike 10 levels below yours. As what holyshot said, your spitting opposite on what is happening in the game. What a clown.

[TigerShark22 520]

1 minute ago, HollyShot said:

Ms was superior like 5 years ago, don’t pretend your opinion was right last year

And fs is superior to mg and ss

same tier of atalanta, right below bs.

Nope.

 

I'm not talking in an ideal world of full buff vs full buff.

 

I'm talking overall PvP balance.

 

It also means:

No buffs 1v1 - goes to SS.

 

Team fights-   SS.

 

SW- SS.

 

 

[disable1000 563]

1 minute ago, Kagome said:

but whats the best class in PVE?

It depends on what is your game play, either you like solo or party. If solo, best class is knight, shaman and mage.

[TigerShark22 520]

1 minute ago, nameless10 said:

Ofcourse you can destroy every pike 10 levels below yours. As what holyshot said, your spitting opposite on what is happening in the game. What a clown.

U think I bother to remember you?

 

And no, I destroyed higher lvls than me too.

 

And I was right about every single report I made. 

 

Diffrence between us- unbiased players, and even GMs themselves loved listening to my analysis, and there was a demand for it. They didn't always listen ( and time kept proving me right), but many were curious about my feeddback. Players too.

 

 

And you? U need to join my fan club I suppose. I for real has no idea who are you.

[nameless10 224]

2 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Nope.

 

I'm not talking in an ideal world of full buff vs full buff.

 

I'm talking overall PvP balance.

 

It also means:

No buffs 1v1 - goes to SS.

 

Team fights-   SS.

 

SW- SS.

 

 

Pike can 1 CL your SS any time of the day. End of argument

[HollyShot 1,057]

Just now, TigerShark22 said:

Nope.

 

I'm not talking in an ideal world of full buff vs full buff.

 

I'm talking overall PvP balance.

 

It also means:

No buffs 1v1 - goes to SS.

 

Team fights-   SS.

 

SW- SS.

 

 

Fs is superior for 1v1, for team fights and for sw. Using buff or not using. 
and anyway, even if your personal pvp is restrict for duels; 90% of pvp in wartale is made with buffs, so the balance has to count extra buffs. 

 

[Kagome 23]

1 minute ago, disable1000 said:

It depends on what is your game play, either you like solo or party. If solo, best class is knight, shaman and mage.

i prefer to party but hard to find anymore, so i end up solo a lot  i like mgs and prs but meh. i also like SoD (im returning its been a long time for me) and i know ppl spam sod with prs and its almost possible to beat them outta r3

[TigerShark22 520]

8 minutes ago, nameless10 said:

Pike can 1 CL your SS any time of the day. End of argument

If he crits, and hits. 

 

But SS can kill him with 1 scratch too.

 

And the scratch of SS is a lot faster. SS has higher AR and is more likely to hit.

 

SS has way higher deff, lower evade+ block but still faster, with more abs.

 

SS has long range- ease to avoid ground pike as a pro ( but I doubt u even know that)

 

SS has inertia to ruin anything which isn't CS ( and loading CS on a SS is extremely dangerous). 

 

SS kills pike with 1 crit+ 1 regular( with super fast skill animation)

 

Pike is trapped in a long animation, and needs 2 crits, sometimes 2 crits+ regular to kill a SS.

 

So ofc SS is superior.

6 minutes ago, Kagome said:

i prefer to party but hard to find anymore, so i end up solo a lot  i like mgs and prs but meh. i also like SoD (im returning its been a long time for me) and i know ppl spam sod with prs and its almost possible to beat them outta r3

Then it sounds that SS is for you.

 

Though if u like mage, u could also go mage.

6 minutes ago, HollyShot said:

Fs is superior for 1v1, for team fights and for sw. Using buff or not using. 
and anyway, even if your personal pvp is restrict for duels; 90% of pvp in wartale is made with buffs, so the balance has to count extra buffs. 

 

Buffs yes, but is it a 1v1, or a big team fights?

 

Can a FS really open 2h in a big team fights?

 

Can he tank multiple opponents even with 1h ( low deff, average block, no evade- not counting drax+ ata buff which everyone have)

 

All of those are factors.

 

PvP no buffs are factors for PvP balance too.

 

 

Ata for example gains immense power with full buffs mode. And immense power in team fights. 

Edited March 8 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 1,057]

1 minute ago, TigerShark22 said:

If he crits, and hits. 

 

But SS can kill him with 1 scratch too.

 

And the scratch of SS is a lot faster. SS has higher AR and is more likely to hit.

 

SS has way higher deff, lower evade+ block but still faster, with more abs.

 

SS has long range- ease to avoid ground pike as a pro ( but I doubt u even know that)

 

SS has inertia to ruin anything which isn't CS ( and loading CS on a SS is extremely dangerous). 

Funny your analysis 

even tho shaman is the pike biggest counter and would probably win

The fact shaman has range doesn’t make him immune to frozen, the pike can just go closer and use the debuff. After all shaman doesn’t play running like archer. 

also inertia won’t last 100% the time, so the pike could just move till it’s clear to hit. 
In general shaman has a better chance to win, but a good pike would have a chance. Not so basic like u think 

 

[nameless10 224]

2 minutes ago, HollyShot said:

Funny your analysis 

even tho shaman is the pike biggest counter and would probably win

The fact shaman has range doesn’t make him immune to frozen, the pike can just go closer and use the debuff. After all shaman doesn’t play running like archer. 

also inertia won’t last 100% the time, so the pike could just move till it’s clear to hit. 
In general shaman has a better chance to win, but a good pike would have a chance. Not so basic like u think 

 

If the shaman is tigershark, its a food shaman. If tigershark is ata, its a food ata. If tigershark is fs, its a food fs. Thats the conclusion.

[TigerShark22 520]

Just now, HollyShot said:

Funny your analysis 

even tho shaman is the pike biggest counter and would probably win

The fact shaman has range doesn’t make him immune to frozen, the pike can just go closer and use the debuff. After all shaman doesn’t play running like archer. 

also inertia won’t last 100% the time, so the pike could just move till it’s clear to hit. 
In general shaman has a better chance to win, but a good pike would have a chance. Not so basic like u think 

 

Not freeze immunity. But in the hands of a pro- long range is an immense edge. Pikes never touched me when I was using SS. Quick attack speed, long range. A noob ofc won't avoid anything, but a pro- untouchable.

 

Even if a pike chase- I just need to be a bit far, just enough to be able to run his freeze area, which is easy to do.

 

About inertia- SS still gets free hits with overwhelming speed, while the pike is slowed down. 

 

 

I always count pro vs pro. Ofc there's a just that the pike will luck out. But what's likely to happen? A SS 8-2  a pike

[Kagome 23]

10 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Then it sounds that SS is for you.

Though if u like mage, u could also go mage.

 

Haven't really played Shaman at a high level; is it really that good for solo / aoe? Mage feels good with the insta-cast agony, but a lot of things are fire resistant so it kinda stinks, it can get outdmged in some areas to my knowledge. i like the redone Shaman spell effects that i've seen tho, its a pretty class.

[TigerShark22 520]

5 minutes ago, nameless10 said:

If the shaman is tigershark, its a food shaman. If tigershark is ata, its a food ata. If tigershark is fs, its a food fs. Thats the conclusion.

Do you want to join my fan club?

 

I need more fans like you.

3 minutes ago, Kagome said:

Haven't really played Shaman at a high level; is it really that good for solo / aoe? Mage feels good with the insta-cast agony, but a lot of things are fire resistant so it kinda stinks, it can get outdmged in some areas to my knowledge. i like the redone Shaman spell effects that i've seen tho, its a pretty class.

Yes. SS is amazing in high lvls, both at solo and at a party. 

 

For solo it has range, tanks well, and remember- it has it's ideal DPS with 1h. U can even kite with it ( can even get a running speed hat and abuse it's kite to solo impossible cases). 

 

Cheap too, extremely powerful.

 

If I was to pick 1 class, for overall game experience, by it's strength alone- it would be SS ( Good PvE - PvP balance).

Edited March 8 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 1,057]

7 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

If he crits, and hits. 

 

But SS can kill him with 1 scratch too.

 

And the scratch of SS is a lot faster. SS has higher AR and is more likely to hit.

 

SS has way higher deff, lower evade+ block but still faster, with more abs.

 

SS has long range- ease to avoid ground pike as a pro ( but I doubt u even know that)

 

SS has inertia to ruin anything which isn't CS ( and loading CS on a SS is extremely dangerous). 

 

SS kills pike with 1 crit+ 1 regular( with super fast skill animation)

 

Pike is trapped in a long animation, and needs 2 crits, sometimes 2 crits+ regular to kill a SS.

 

So ofc SS is superior.

Then it sounds that SS is for you.

 

Though if u like mage, u could also go mage.

Buffs yes, but is it a 1v1, or a big team fights?

 

Can a FS really open 2h in a big team fights?

 

Can he tank multiple opponents even with 1h ( low deff, average block, no evade- not counting drax+ ata buff which everyone have)

 

All of those are factors.

 

PvP no buffs are factors for PvP balance too.

 

 

Ata for example gains immense power with full buffs mode. And immense power in team fights. 

That would depend on the fight. Fs would be playing overnumber or not? If yes he can easily use 2 hands most of the time. If he is against too many ppl, he would just go 1 hand, till ppl focus another player and bring his 2 hands again. Or use stum and bring 2 hands. It’s a dynamic class that works in almost all situation. 
Also I would add that atalanta in a “no buff fight” is better than in a “full buff fight”, if u talking about ata vs fs. Cuz her evd is used  by the fs in wars, but not in duels.
the same goes for prs in duels. Since she has vl/t5 and the opponent hasn’t she is decent. But usually in pvp she is not so good, cuz everyone has vl.

[TigerShark22 520]

Just now, HollyShot said:

That would depend on the fight. Fs would be playing overnumber or not? If yes he can easily use 2 hands most of the time. If he is against too many ppl, he would just go 1 hand, till ppl focus another player and bring his 2 hands again. Or use stum and bring 2 hands. It’s a dynamic class that works in almost all situation. 
Also I would add that atalanta in a “no buff fight” is better than in a “full buff fight”, if u talking about ata vs fs. Cuz her evd is used  by the fs in wars, but not in duels.
the same goes for prs in duels. Since she has vl/t5 and the opponent hasn’t she is decent. But usually in pvp she is not so good, cuz everyone has vl.

If u claim that ata in no buff fights is better - u already revealed u have no idea what you are talking about . Diffrence between how it sounds at first, vs how it actually is after being tested. 

 

 

 

And u think I don't know how to use FS? Your explanation is what I already know. But- when multiple opponents attack 1- it's best to have more chance to avoid hit than extra hp. FS can even die with shield, it's not meant to tank. Both ata and FS have AOE stun. But ata has long range, and gets to keep her insane DPS always, with shield, from far away, with nice running speed. While FS? Forcd to get closed. Forcex to hide behind shield most of the time. It's not the same. Not even close.

[HollyShot 1,057]

8 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Not freeze immunity. But in the hands of a pro- long range is an immense edge. Pikes never touched me when I was using SS. Quick attack speed, long range. A noob ofc won't avoid anything, but a pro- untouchable.

 

Even if a pike chase- I just need to be a bit far, just enough to be able to run his freeze area, which is easy to do.

 

About inertia- SS still gets free hits with overwhelming speed, while the pike is slowed down. 

 

 

I always count pro vs pro. Ofc there's a just that the pike will luck out. But what's likely to happen? A SS 8-2  a pike

A pro pike wouldn’t direct fight shaman, but walk alway till reset his cooldowns to kill. And it’s not hard to freeze a shaman, sorry. 
shaman would probably win in the end cuz is more likely the pike to make a mistake, and shaman is a easier class to play. 
But that is for duels only. In bc where pikes play hit and run, it’s not easy to kill a pike, he can just fk the shaman. 

[Kagome 23]

11 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Yes. SS is amazing in high lvls, both at solo and at a party. 

 

For solo it has range, tanks well, and remember- it has it's ideal DPS with 1h. U can even kite with it ( can even get a running speed hat and abuse it's kite to solo impossible cases). 

 

Cheap too, extremely powerful.

 

If I was to pick 1 class, for overall game experience, by it's strength alone- it would be SS ( Good PvE - PvP balance).

Thank you ^^ I appreciate the input and the opinion. im the type of person that can be a chronic reroller; i was a PRS Main for my entire time on EPT, and while good here just not what I like the best anymore haha

[TigerShark22 520]

3 minutes ago, HollyShot said:

A pro pike wouldn’t direct fight shaman, but walk alway till reset his cooldowns to kill. And it’s not hard to freeze a shaman, sorry. 
shaman would probably win in the end cuz is more likely the pike to make a mistake, and shaman is a easier class to play. 
But that is for duels only. In bc where pikes play hit and run, it’s not easy to kill a pike, he can just fk the shaman. 

I said in a pro vs pro fight. Pro SS will not be touched by freeze. Combo of long range+ high attack speed. If u can't grasp it- u have a lot to learn then.

 

Not a pro pike vs noob shaman.

 

U even admitted pikes will usually lose cause SS counters them badly, in addition to pike state being crap, while SS being way superior.

Edited March 8 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 1,057]

2 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

If u claim that ata in no buff fights is better - u already revealed u have no idea what you are talking about . Diffrence between how it sounds at first, vs how it actually is after being tested. 

 

 

 

And u think I don't know how to use FS? Your explanation is what I already know. But- when multiple opponents attack 1- it's best to have more chance to avoid hit than extra hp. FS can even die with shield, it's not meant to tank. Both ata and FS have AOE stun. But ata has long range, and gets to keep her insane DPS always, with shield, from far away, with nice running speed. While FS? Forcd to get closed. Forcex to hide behind shield most of the time. It's not the same. Not even close.

Yes I do think you don’t know what you say, after all I’m talking with someone that doesn’t play pvp, but for some reason like to give opinion about it. 
Fs is in the same tier of atalanta cuz he can tank better using shield, and also hit kill her with destroyer. Her advantage is the speed and venom. They are balance between them. 

[TigerShark22 520]

1 minute ago, HollyShot said:

Yes I do think you don’t know what you say, after all I’m talking with someone that doesn’t play pvp, but for some reason like to give opinion about it. 
Fs is in the same tier of atalanta cuz he can tank better using shield, and also hit kill her with destroyer. Her advantage is the speed and venom. They are balance between them. 

But I used to PvP for years. And gameplay wise, many considered me top tier player.

 

And it's not that the balance has changed since my PvP days .

 

And nope, not at all. Ata pros are in general stronger than FSs. And her cons are not as bad usually.

 

 

Edited March 8 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 1,057]

Just now, TigerShark22 said:

But I used to PvP for years. And gameplay wise, many considered me top tier player.

 

And it's not that the balance has changed since my PvP days .

Sorry who consider you top tier? I don’t think anyone thinks that lol 

 

3 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

I said in a pro vs pro fight. Pro SS will not be touched by freeze. Combo of long range+ high attack speed. If u can't grasp it- u have a lot to learn then.

 

Not a pro pike vs noob shaman.

 

U even admitted pikes will usually lose cause SS counters them badly, in addition to pike state being crap, while SS being way superior.

Pike would usually lost to shaman, just not so basic like you said.

[TigerShark22 520]

1 minute ago, HollyShot said:

Sorry who consider you top tier? I don’t think anyone thinks that lol 

 

Pike would usually lost to shaman, just not so basic like you said.

Who? Almost every single player who dueled me.

 

And yes, in a pro vs pro fight, SS stomps PS.

Edited March 8 by TigerShark22

[nameless10 224]

2 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

But I used to PvP for years. And gameplay wise, many considered me top tier player.

 

And it's not that the balance has changed since my PvP days .

 

And nope, not at all. Ata pros are in general stronger than FSs. And her cons are not as bad usually.

 

 

"Many" who are those players kkkk many here think your just a forum clown with all come out on your mouth is the opposite in what is happening in the game. Kkkkkk self proclaimed pro.. kkkkk nice joke though

[HollyShot 1,057]

Just now, TigerShark22 said:

Who? Almost every single player who dueled me.

Who? Cuz I play this for some years already and I never heard someone saying tigershark or fighter4life is an excepcional player. Sorry but must ppl don’t even know you lol

[Mrzero 128]

6 minutes ago, HollyShot said:

Who? Cuz I play this for some years already and I never heard someone saying tigershark or fighter4life is an excepcional player. Sorry but must ppl don’t even know you lol

Who that guys? I even dont see him 1 time in every week in bc