vhnh167 289 Posted Thursday at 09:55 AM Hi guys, According to the website: Spark Shield chains Spark's damage boost. I have both Spark and Spark Shield at level 10, meaning I should expect 160% + 40% damage boost, right? I tested in IC, for instance, and Spark deals 7.5k - 9k damage, while Spark Shield only deals 3.5k - 4k, in the same range as Magnetic Sphere. This means only the 40% reflection damage is there, not the chained damage. Please correct me if I'm wrong, is this a bug? Right now it doesn't make sense to have Spark Shield at all. Best, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sansiro 176 Posted Thursday at 12:08 PM 2 hours ago, vhnh167 said: Hi guys, According to the website: Spark Shield chains Spark's damage boost. I have both Spark and Spark Shield at level 10, meaning I should expect 160% + 40% damage boost, right? I tested in IC, for instance, and Spark deals 7.5k - 9k damage, while Spark Shield only deals 3.5k - 4k, in the same range as Magnetic Sphere. This means only the 40% reflection damage is there, not the chained damage. Please correct me if I'm wrong, is this a bug? Right now it doesn't make sense to have Spark Shield at all. Best, Deal 40% Reflect Damage from moster. Not character damage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,777 Posted Thursday at 02:23 PM 4 hours ago, vhnh167 said: Hi guys, According to the website: Spark Shield chains Spark's damage boost. I have both Spark and Spark Shield at level 10, meaning I should expect 160% + 40% damage boost, right? I tested in IC, for instance, and Spark deals 7.5k - 9k damage, while Spark Shield only deals 3.5k - 4k, in the same range as Magnetic Sphere. This means only the 40% reflection damage is there, not the chained damage. Please correct me if I'm wrong, is this a bug? Right now it doesn't make sense to have Spark Shield at all. Best, It is 40% of Spark, not 40% added to spark. Best, Overlady. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 289 Posted Thursday at 03:24 PM 1 hour ago, Overlady said: It is 40% of Spark, not 40% added to spark. Best, Overlady. I see, thanks for the clarification! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastellini 626 Posted Thursday at 03:34 PM 9 minutes ago, vhnh167 said: I see, thanks for the clarification! worth use it? i think no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 289 Posted Thursday at 03:37 PM 2 minutes ago, mastellini said: worth use it? i think no No, it's not worth it. It adds very minimal additional damage every 2-3 seconds. I'll probably change to a 1v1 skill + reverse engineering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastellini 626 Posted Thursday at 03:39 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, vhnh167 said: No, it's not worth it. It adds very minimal additional damage every 2-3 seconds. I'll probably change to a 1v1 skill + reverse engineering. reverse engineering should to be a party buff to mech damage but spark is the best choice for area damage or not? Edited Thursday at 03:40 PM by mastellini Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 289 Posted Thursday at 03:44 PM 1 minute ago, mastellini said: reverse engineering should to be a party buff to mech damage but spark is the best choice for area damage or not? I've tested in SL, SS, EB, IC. Spark is only good when there are Mechanic monsters. In exp maps like IC for instance, there is only one range mechanic monster, so you would have to move around playe a bit. Whereas Impulsion can chain to these range monsters. Only case when Spark is objectively better in my test is in SL when there are 1-2 Sentinels (I usually do my quests in a 3-monster spawn). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erickloro 516 Posted Thursday at 04:55 PM 1 hour ago, mastellini said: reverse engineering should to be a party buff to mech damage but spark is the best choice for area damage or not? Already try mechanic bomb? I didnt use spark/spark shield Im using mechanic bomb for Bosses (dont miss, ranged, i think its faster than spark) Aoe dmg im using mechanic bomb/impulsion (better elemental dmg cover) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesusvida2 49 Posted Thursday at 05:33 PM 1 hour ago, mastellini said: reverse engineering should to be a party buff to mech damage but spark is the best choice for area damage or not? I don't think reverse engineering should be a party buff, but a defense passive just like KS has for undead but continue beeing for mec monsters or maybe passive abs boost, maybe maximize beeing a party buff would be something more "usable" for the game. Not only give MS more damage but give the party more damage. But we got to a point that was said, don't remmember by who, too many skills for not so many points... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastellini 626 Posted Thursday at 05:57 PM 1 hour ago, erickloro said: Already try mechanic bomb? I didnt use spark/spark shield Im using mechanic bomb for Bosses (dont miss, ranged, i think its faster than spark) Aoe dmg im using mechanic bomb/impulsion (better elemental dmg cover) ye i feel bomb faster than spark, but damage is low i think... maybe should have a burn like asss bomb 24 minutes ago, jesusvida2 said: I don't think reverse engineering should be a party buff, but a defense passive just like KS has for undead but continue beeing for mec monsters or maybe passive abs boost, maybe maximize beeing a party buff would be something more "usable" for the game. Not only give MS more damage but give the party more damage. But we got to a point that was said, don't remmember by who, too many skills for not so many points... good too i like the idea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only1Hand 23 Posted Thursday at 08:59 PM For SL and SS Quest solo, i like to use Spark + Magnethtic + spark shield and kill 4~4 mob. But i tested SS with Great Smash + Reverse Engineering, killing only mech mobs, kill fast, but Great Smash is too slow and has only 1 hit, and needs to run around the map looking for mechanical mobs. For EB, i like to use spark or mech bomb, bomb when has mutant mob and spark when has mech or when have a weakness to lightning or with mg in the PT using wattornado, to combo, it works well. For dungeons, as a killer, i like to use Spark in Sunken + vampire +24 (+1 atk speed), for LC i like to use Vampire +24 and mech bomb, Most mobs in LC are weak to fire. for HC, spark better, But you can't always use Vampire, because you need to be near the monsters (That's why I wanted them to improve the spark range; if it were the same as the bomb's range, it would be excellent.). The skill with the longest range, which is good for killing bosses, in my opinion is the bomb, And I have a feeling that she is the fastest skill, In addition to having a bonus against mutants.. Spark is the AoE skill with the highest damage, but its range is small; you need to be close to the mobs. It has an additional bonus against mechs, It looks great when combined with Watornado. Impulsion has "okay" damage for having 2 hits, but it's very slow, it's not worth it because it's too sluggish. I only use it in SOD, it has good range, but only deals "okay" damage to nearby mobs (range 100). 2 hours ago, mastellini said: ye i feel bomb faster than spark, but damage is low i think... maybe should have a burn like asss bomb This skill used to have a burning effect, but they removed it. Sad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 289 Posted Friday at 06:12 AM 9 hours ago, Only1Hand said: For SL and SS Quest solo, i like to use Spark + Magnethtic + spark shield and kill 4~4 mob. But i tested SS with Great Smash + Reverse Engineering, killing only mech mobs, kill fast, but Great Smash is too slow and has only 1 hit, and needs to run around the map looking for mechanical mobs. For EB, i like to use spark or mech bomb, bomb when has mutant mob and spark when has mech or when have a weakness to lightning or with mg in the PT using wattornado, to combo, it works well. For dungeons, as a killer, i like to use Spark in Sunken + vampire +24 (+1 atk speed), for LC i like to use Vampire +24 and mech bomb, Most mobs in LC are weak to fire. for HC, spark better, But you can't always use Vampire, because you need to be near the monsters (That's why I wanted them to improve the spark range; if it were the same as the bomb's range, it would be excellent.). The skill with the longest range, which is good for killing bosses, in my opinion is the bomb, And I have a feeling that she is the fastest skill, In addition to having a bonus against mutants.. Spark is the AoE skill with the highest damage, but its range is small; you need to be close to the mobs. It has an additional bonus against mechs, It looks great when combined with Watornado. Impulsion has "okay" damage for having 2 hits, but it's very slow, it's not worth it because it's too sluggish. I only use it in SOD, it has good range, but only deals "okay" damage to nearby mobs (range 100). This skill used to have a burning effect, but they removed it. Sad. Impulsion is faster than Spark (per hit) though. For nearby monsters, I find it better than Spark, with higher range (chained). I think you're right bomb is great for LC since many monsters are weak to fire damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites