shield x orb

[Gsantos 0]

what do you thing ???

shield or orb plz say good and bad points in each one and your opinion 

[SEXandLOVE 0]

It depends on your build , Im a "defense" build and Im using a blaze shield beacuse of it's high def/block

[Cookie 0]

At the moment, its would be wiser to use a shield,  preferably blaze shield as/ata,  because of the high block and abs.

From lvl 105/110 i would suggest to use a orb, cause if you age it you will have a lot more def/abs and about the same % as a blaze shield

[Gsantos 0]

but if i want a hagh lvl shield such as syntetic shield ??

is is good for a priest that has a build for exp/ sod ?

 

[Cookie 0]

Synthetic shields needs too much str IMO

blaze shield is the highest i would go for

blaze shield is about the str you need for high lvl gaunts/boots etc

[Gsantos 0]

and those priests that wear really high lvl shield such as ph shield or xtal shield ??

those shield need a lot of str and they just wear it ...

is that good for any build ??

[Cookie 0]

IMO its a waste of points

PRS arent supposed to be the maintanker and with a nice aged orb and decent stuff you can survive pretty well, so you can put more points in WP (for more dmg) or just some HP (better surviving at all)

[Renan 0]

I preffer orbs. Even lower lvl. 'Cause I use base agi, str for wand/staff, high spirit and 150 health. Atmm I'm 86 and got like 150 health and 241 spirit. I can survive quite well and got a descent dmg, and I preffer high hp than def on low lvl (b4 110).

[Alive 3]

in another pt . I built my pri with xtal shield. I aged it high.

 

And for me, it was good. So Im re-building my pri with a highshield again....

[-RaMoN- 0]

It depends level (Many things) but I prefer orb to high lvl and to low lvl shield is better ,,,

[BBuddy~ 203]

Shield = + Block

Orb = + Defense if High Aged

[EfestokS 0]

orb better

[lucastui 0]

orb better

[Anshlun 0]

prefer Orb

[BBuddy~ 203]

  On 1/1/2010 at 9:06 PM, Glau. said:

Depends of your build

Imo,i choose the orb.

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as i said

orb = +def

shield = +block

[BlaBla 0]

I'm not playing PRS, MAGE, but I already plaid with both of them. I think the orb is better, but maybe that's not the case on this server.. I'll try with my PRS mate char.

[Dingor 0]

A high aged orb is surely better than a high aged shield.

 

However, in the case of mixes, if the shield has a good mix (using, infernas, enigmas etc.) will be better than the orb, I think.

 

 

[December 0]

  On 1/28/2010 at 1:15 AM, Dingor said:

A high aged orb is surely better than a high aged shield.

 

However, in the case of mixes, if the shield has a good mix (using, infernas, enigmas etc.) will be better than the orb, I think.

 

 

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depends on the playing style

i prefer orbs... eh its just me oh well

[NanoEntity 8]

Shield is better no matter what level you are with good MIX.

 

ORB only +15-+20, else its not worth to even age them at all.

Only Equip Orbs with age +15-+20, else MIX shield is the best choice.

Only Age orbs with perfect defense & perfect Spec. Stats Defense.

 

ORB has to be level 108+

ORBs lower then 108+ item grade do not produce enough defense from age which makes them worthless to even invest such money in.

 

NOTE:

The lower the ORB defense the less benefit you get when aging them.

 

[xinxilaum 0]

  On 1/28/2010 at 1:15 PM, NanoEntity said:

Shield is better no matter what level you are with good MIX.

 

ORB only +15-+20, else its not worth to even age them at all.

Only Equip Orbs with age +15-+20, else MIX shield is the best choice.

Only Age orbs with perfect defense & perfect Spec. Stats Defense.

 

ORB has to be level 108+

ORBs lower then 108+ item grade do not produce enough defense from age which makes them worthless to even invest such money in.

 

NOTE:

The lower the ORB defense the less benefit you get when aging them.

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Crazy...........

 

Just a +10 salamander beads is better than blaze+10~+12, any high lvl mixed (str too high, put it on wp or vit) etc etc.......mix on shield, now, is waste .....test it in Wartale.

[Marçal 1]

ORB...

[NanoEntity 8]

I'm not talking about blaze , shield prs go for the best shield in the game .

It has other Benefits to it

 

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Avernus Beads

Defense 166 - 180

Block 7 - 8%

ABS 8.1 - 8.6

 

Spec. Stats

Defense 34 - 44

Block 7%

Absorb 1.4 - 1.8

 

Age +20

3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto

Chance of Fail / Chance of De age, chance of going Poof.

 

AFTER With Spec.

Avernus Beads +20

Defense 1254

ABS 20.4

Block 15%

 

Oracle Wand req 70 str

 

Benefit

Can Equip

 

Great Bracelets

Strength 66

Defense 36

PotCount 38

 

War Gauntlets

Strength 70

Defense 52

Absorb 1.7

Spec. Stats

Defense 20

Absorb 0.5

 

Total:

Defense 108

Absorb 2.2

PotCount 38

 

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Dreadnaught Shield

Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec

Defense 210 - 260

Absorb 14.6 - 15.1

Block 17 - 20%

 

Best MIX

HP( +60 ) | Def( +200 ) | Abs( +5.4 ) | Blk( +7 )

 

Price

6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma

 

AFTER

Dreadnaught Shield

Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec

Defense 460

Absorb 20.5

Block 27%

HP +60

 

+60 HP means you don't have to spend/invest points into Health.

There being moved into strength, which gives more carry weight, more abs, more def being added.

 

Benefit

Can equip

 

Phoenix Bracelets

Strength 90

Defense 160

PotCount 110

 

Phoenix Gauntlets

Strength 100

Defense 193

Absorb 12

Spec. Stats

Defense 64

Absorb 1.2

 

Total:

Defense 417

Absorb 13.2

PotCount 110

 

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THE DIFFERENCE!

 

AFTER With Spec.

Avernus Beads ( Age +20)

Defense 1254

ABS 20.4

Block 15%

 

PLUS

Defense 108

Absorb 2.2

PotCount 38

 

Total Gain:

Defense 1362

Absorb 22.6

Block 15%

PotCount 38

 

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AFTER

Dreadnaught Shield (Best Mix)

Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec

Defense 460

Absorb 20.5

Block 27%

HP +60

 

PLUS

Defense 417

Absorb 13.2

PotCount 110

 

Total Gain:

Defense 877

Absorb 33.7

Block 27%

HP +60

PotCount 110

 

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CONCLUSION!

 

Orb Prs  - +20

Defense 1362

Absorb 22.6

Block 15%

PotCount 38

 

Price:

3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto

28% - 48% chance item will go poof, Age +15 - +20.

 

Shield Prs  - Best MIX

Defense 877

Absorb 33.7

Block 27%

HP +60

PotCount 110

 

Price:

6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma

100% chance Success.

[Exelicer 0]

Ur so important that everything is bold what u r posting?

 

Beside u have couple misstakes in ur calc like...

oracle wand prs spec has min str req of 53

That no prs would go for ur stated set when using orb or that the avernus aging calc is wrong...

 

I guess it might be not a comon build to say u have best set, best mixes and whatever.

 

And on rpt u get more with high spirit as in other pt's. Its not like upt, where u dont feel a diff with 50 spirit more or not.

And phoenix set is around 8x str and u forgett about agi - u also have to add for higher sets.

 

Ya I had perf phoenix set with best sapphier mix on upt... cos it was there more important to reach high abs + muspell 10 to get healed in xp maps by undeads an never use hp pots, just spamm cl, but a weak cl...

 

I dont really want to say orb or shield is better... most prs go for a leech build here anyway, doesnt matter if orb and alot health or shield with alot str and some health.

[NanoEntity 8]

As I said, its based off the Item list that is in game with max listed Str.

http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=1829.0

 

Obviously AS/ATA shield will be less then 130str, same for wand, boots, gag, arm with spec.

 

And calculations are right , 10% def added each age, 20 times. with perfect Def Avernus Beads.

It will be around 1200 Def, of base 180 Def.

 

go do, 180 + 10%+ 10% +10%, and so on, do that 20 times, comes to 1200 Def rate.

 

And that is if you never fail +1 - +20.

 

Benefit with shield is higher then orb.

 

Especially for leveling/soloing/sod.

 

Hunting obviously pure willpower.

 

  On 1/29/2010 at 1:58 AM, Exelicer said:

Ur so important that everything is bold what u r posting?

 

Beside u have couple misstakes in ur calc like...

oracle wand prs spec has min str req of 53

That no prs would go for ur stated set when using orb or that the avernus aging calc is wrong...

 

I guess it might be not a comon build to say u have best set, best mixes and whatever.

 

And on rpt u get more with high spirit as in other pt's. Its not like upt, where u dont feel a diff with 50 spirit more or not.

And phoenix set is around 8x str and u forgett about agi - u also have to add for higher sets.

 

Ya I had perf phoenix set with best sapphier mix on upt... cos it was there more important to reach high abs + muspell 10 to get healed in xp maps by undeads an never use hp pots, just spamm cl, but a weak cl...

 

I dont really want to say orb or shield is better... most prs go for a leech build here anyway, doesnt matter if orb and alot health or shield with alot str and some health.

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[lucastui 0]

  On 1/1/2010 at 1:03 AM, EfestokS said:

orb better

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