After update Fighter loot problem?

[streetboybeo 0]

After update, my fighter cant Loot, is there anyone like me?

[Doug 1]

Yes. its how it will be now, maybe it make macros stop

[OverYourHead 0]

So its not usefull anymore, better rework the skill and make it effective for hunting or something.

[LotonTow 0]

its work, but now have lvl reqe

ex: if you lvl 110 you can loot ft1 or et1 but you cant loot when you in low lvls map then your fs lvl ...

 

well .. so far that what i found  ..

[DrRightousness 18]

:-\ thats fruited up, so now fighter cant mass kill AOE, yet they can loot gold in their lvl map only, which happens when? never. if fighters AOE power was increased so we could actually solo, it then would be a highly useful and prized skill. gold while exping.

 

i see now fighter dont get exp map party(only leech from mage/prs), so hellion loot is totally useless. except as a tanker in hunt and it dies fast anyway

 

the only places fighter loot was useful was in low lvl maps. however yes it was abused a LOT.

 

lame but its even more lame we cant make gold now, those of us who actually played properly in these low maps.

 

this was not a solution it was a nerf of something actually useful for the class. any good AOE class can make more gold in SOD anyway.

 

 

 

everyone always hates on fighters, with no valid reasoning. it should undoubtedly be the highest dmg (with skills, other classes have low dmg yes but with skills it can even out) class but with NO tanking ability however the only thing Healthboost does is prevent 1-2 hit kill in hunt maps its not a tanking skill. ???

[Ices 18]

:-\ thats fruited up, so now fighter cant mass kill AOE, yet they can loot gold in their lvl map only, which happens when? never. if fighters AOE power was increased so we could actually solo, it then would be a highly useful and prized skill. gold while exping.

 

i see now fighter dont get exp map party(only leech from mage/prs), so hellion loot is totally useless. except as a tanker in hunt and it dies fast anyway

 

the only places fighter loot was useful was in low lvl maps. however yes it was abused a LOT.

 

lame but its even more lame we cant make gold now, those of us who actually played properly in these low maps.

 

this was not a solution it was a nerf of something actually useful for the class. any good AOE class can make more gold in SOD anyway.

 

 

 

everyone always hates on fighters, with no valid reasoning. it should undoubtedly be the highest dmg (with skills, other classes have low dmg yes but with skills it can even out) class but with NO tanking ability however the only thing Healthboost does is prevent 1-2 hit kill in hunt maps its not a tanking skill. ???

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

[stitches 0]

:-\ thats fruited up, so now fighter cant mass kill AOE, yet they can loot gold in their lvl map only, which happens when? never. if fighters AOE power was increased so we could actually solo, it then would be a highly useful and prized skill. gold while exping.

 

i see now fighter dont get exp map party(only leech from mage/prs), so hellion loot is totally useless. except as a tanker in hunt and it dies fast anyway

 

the only places fighter loot was useful was in low lvl maps. however yes it was abused a LOT.

 

lame but its even more lame we cant make gold now, those of us who actually played properly in these low maps.

 

this was not a solution it was a nerf of something actually useful for the class. any good AOE class can make more gold in SOD anyway.

 

 

 

everyone always hates on fighters, with no valid reasoning. it should undoubtedly be the highest dmg (with skills, other classes have low dmg yes but with skills it can even out) class but with NO tanking ability however the only thing Healthboost does is prevent 1-2 hit kill in hunt maps its not a tanking skill. ???

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

5gb a day oh my gasss

[OverYourHead 0]

There is no reason to play FS or KS in this server, they are just bad class and dont worth ur time to lvl it. Cant do party Quests, cant xp by themselves are shit in pvp and hunt, when compared to the others. You cant point a good thing that fs or ks can do that other classes cant do better than them. If you want play melee play PS, end of conversation. You cant point things they are good and only they can do good,  which make these class useless here.

 

Even if u consider ks killing undead its not even a good thing to compensate his lack "place" in this game, archer or atalanta can hunt faster, get invited to what Q they want and do xp maps as well. I did some test the time ks kill 1 undead at hunt maps the other can kill 2 or ~1,6 monster etc...

 

Its not a whine anymore, just alerting people to invest their free time in something usefull. You will not reach anywhere playing KS or FS in this server.

[Yazmato 10]

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

And that fix make hellion Totally useless now, goodbye Hellion. 5 -10GB/ day, that guys must have alot of looting fs and good multitasking skill to control all of them .

[Kim 10]

There is no reason to play FS or KS in this server, they are just bad class and dont worth ur time to lvl it. Cant do party Quests, cant xp by themselves are shit in pvp and hunt, when compared to the others. You cant point a good thing that fs or ks can do that other classes cant do better than them. If you want play melee play PS, end of conversation. You cant point things they are good and only they can do good,  which make these class useless here.

 

Even if u consider ks killing undead its not even a good thing to compensate his lack "place" in this game, archer or atalanta can hunt faster, get invited to what Q they want and do xp maps as well. I did some test the time ks kill 1 undead at hunt maps the other can kill 2 or ~1,6 monster etc...

 

Its not a whine anymore, just alerting people to invest their free time in something usefull. You will not reach anywhere playing KS or FS in this server.

 

 

Actually, FS is one the best classes to hunt. Seriously, it kills really fast in DI (if you know how to play) and they can get lurer slot in DI quest (i know its just 1 slot, but its the easiest slot to get. I dont know why but people dont like to lure, and if you check trade chat you will see lurer slots really often...) About KS, they even get Killer slots in DI. Brandish has been boosted to 120% add atk power, that make knights able to be a killer in DI (and seriously, a GOOD killer, even better than pikes with tornado) and able to xp solo (or in party, ofc) in Iron Core, getting a good amount of XP (more XP than ata solo, less xp than PRS).

 

 

As you said, they aren't the BEST class in anything, but they seem to be the most balanced classes in this game. They are good in pvp (FS is really great), they can hunt nicely (FS can hunt fast as an archer), they get lurer slots in DI (KS can get even killer slot, if they are with good equipment) and KS can xp solo in Iron Core and get a pretty decent XP amount.

 

 

So, i see no reason to the whining about helion. This skill was fvckin up with the game's economy, GB's price were getting lower and lower everyday because of the macros using this helion loot system. Something must've been done to stop bad players to ruin the game, and nerfing this helion skill was a good start, yet i believe that removing the the helions and making just 1 good pet (like golem and wolverine) with no looting ability, just for tanking would be a way better step to do...

[MrWakaWalrus 3]

I got really happy this morning when I saw people announcing gbs at 850c

 

[Kim 10]

I got really happy this morning when I saw people announcing gbs at 850c

 

 

Hope it gets back to the price it was before Hellions! about 950c 1000c. 

[redsky 0]

i never complain about hellion looting system, actually i didn't care about it. But if you take something out, you should give another thing in, for example: increase the HP, def of Hellion.

 

Fs is useless now aday.

 

Ps: I know some people will say:" If you don't like Fighter, you are free to choose another classes". But i really like Fighter so i hope GM will reconsider about this case.

[apiiu 0]

I did level fs (with stupidly high spirit) for helion and i was using bargon and looting in forest of spirit, but after 1h, i just got like 1.5kk and the helion killed me while i was not watching. This spell is just useless.

[Ian 0]

and the helion killed me while i was not watching.

Good job Wartale. Nice feature.

[Yazmato 10]

Hellion is a pet

useless like wolverine fire elemental golem chimera

anothers pets no loot gold why fs can do it?

 

fruitofff stop cry man

 

And now Sod will Overcrowd, no other options. Before that my income come from only Hellion.

Now what to do, how to get gold to buy Hp,stm, rb, aging, mixing, repair .... yah I'm crying, impasse.

 

[sam9my 0]

Hellion is a pet

useless like wolverine fire elemental golem chimera

anothers pets no loot gold why fs can do it?

 

fruitofff stop cry man

 

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another's pets no loot gold why fs can do it?

 

ans. > Chimera of Light - adds hp to nearby players and detects Pikeman in Stealth +tank >> lv10 = Pet Absorb 70%

      > Metal Golem & wolverine = tank + a bit attack

      > fire elemental > forget it cuz mag can tank and kill by him self

 

      Hellion can't tank much like metal golem & wolf or chimera > So if hellion have loot feature. what is strange? and why can't them loot?

      and So why Metal Golem & wolverine not have "adds hp to nearby players and detects Pikeman in Stealth +tank >> lv10 = Pet Absorb 70%" same as ata ????

 

  if you said like why every pet can't loot same as hellion? So it easy to make all pet to have same feature then everybody will not talking like this again & let's pike have pet or them clone also same functionally. that's is balance and equally fair for every character.

 

[Rhyax 0]

chimera cant tank well, but it provides HP for the party

wolverine and golem tank better

hellions cant tank and thats why they loot gold. If they don't loot, they're useless.

[Rhyax 0]

Also, looting is Hellion's unique feature.

You can't make all pets the same.

[nkhang 0]

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24 ( How do you control it ? @@ )

[Doug 1]

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24 ( How do you control it ? @@ )

 

Just a word.

 

MACRO!

[nkhang 0]

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24 ( How do you control it ? @@ )

 

Just a word.

 

MACRO!

 

Just a word.

Dangerous!

[Yazmato 10]

^ Dude, the problem is, people was using fighters just to macroing to get about 5~10 gb/day. And price of GB was decreasing every week. This was need a fix. Nothing about people hate fighters or something.

 

5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24 ( How do you control it ? @@ )

 

Just a word.

 

MACRO!

 

I'm so sure not any single player can do this (without cheat) or he/she very excellent in multitasking skill. Macro is not suitable to explain, I think "AUTO" is more fit  and easy to understand here.

And if "AUTO" is a problem, this is better to find the way to fix/prevent "AUTO" not disable the skill. Anyway I think hellion is good feature of RPT that other PT cant have.

[nkhang 0]

5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24 ( How do you control it ? @@ )

That's your math, How accurate is that?

 

1. quantity monster /1 spam / 1 day (default no change) --> quantity gold /1 spam / 1 day (default no change)

2. I'm used 1 prs and 3 fs + 3 hours in I2  x8 = 24 hours = 1,3 ~ 2 GB / days ( You can try it yourself and you will know it isn't easy as you think )

 

So i can get result: "5~10 gb/day = 9~12 Fs + 3-4 Prs + 3-4 Spam in I2 + 24/24" but it's on paper i think reality very difficult for loot team with 3 computers and 3 persons --> Nobody can't do it alone

 

My explain price of gold decrease after skill Hellion unlocked:

 

1. People think loot gold very easy with more player abuse auto and macro --> Gold price decrease

2. Gold seller devaluation price of gold --> Gold price decrease

 

-----------Decrease-----------------

Gold Seller: S> Sell GB 1050 coins

Buyer: Expensive no buy

Gold seller: S> Sell GB 1000 coins

Buyer: Expensive no buy

.......

Gold Seller: Sell GB 850 coins

Buyer: He he waiting price 800 )

-----------Increase------------------

Gold seller: S> Sell GB 1050 coins

Buyer: Expensive no buy

Gold seller: S> Sell GB 1000 coins

Buyer: Expensive no buy

Gold seller: S> Sell GB 950 coins

Buyer: Expensive no buy

Gold seller: He he 950 coins is lastest price )

 

Price of gold in your hand please keep it !

 

 

[neog 10]

In fact there was a problem of people using FS to loot gold afk that needed to be solved, but the solution implemented is really not the best one.

People should focus on posting alternative solutions here instead of just complaining, maybe they will be implemented.