Boss Hunting

[BBuddy~ 203]

Hello, Wartale community.

 

Today I experienced a total jacked up moment in boss hunting and I wanted to tell you guys about it and ask your opinion.

 

I was trying to hunt Greedy, but as a Fighter I need to have a tanker to do so. Since there was no Mechanicians online in my clan, I logged in to all servers to see if there was anyone doing it. Surprisingly, after logging in to Ares and Mars, I found a group of players from a clan that I won't mention, and when I stood there by their side, they asked me to leave and go to other server. I said that I couldn't, for obvious reasons. So, when the Boss spawned, all the archers teleported to Battle Town, and the tanker lured Greedy away, just for me not to be able to hunt it.

 

After they did that, the tanker, whose name will not be mentioned as well, said "happy now? you should check your attitude".

 

What do you guys think? Did I do something wrong? Because in my honest opinion, the boss doesn't belong to a single party/clan. Anyone who is able to help killing it can try to get it's drops, so I don't think I did anything wrong. They gave up on killing it because there was ONE player trying to kill it with them, and they say that I am the kid.

[testador 56]

Boss is free, but this will always happen, people are like this.

[Freppe 80]

Yea boss is free. I guess a problem with Draxos/Greedy is that players get super greedy when they can loot an item that can make them semi rich in dropping greedy gaunts or very rich in dropping draxos boots. You obviously did not do anything wrong and it is redicolous to claim a boss for yourself just because the clan/group that wants to hunt it was there first or w/e. 

 

 

[diemurd 487]

Boss is free, you can go hunt any boss any server even having other players there. But make sure u wont die for boss, that would be dirty playing.

[BBuddy~ 203]

5 minutes ago, diemurd said:

Boss is free, you can go hunt any boss any server even having other players there. But make sure u wont die for boss, that would be dirty playing.

Yeah, I wouldn't die to the boss. Never done it on Greedy.

[xunahyo 180]

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I found a group of players from a clan that I won't mention

Nope, not a group of players, only one player controlling all with micro and pre-script.

 

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So, when the Boss spawned, all the archers teleported to Battle Town

Yep, obviously, that's how it has been for God-knows how many years for Greedy and Draxos, even other lesser bosses.

 

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the tanker lured Greedy away, just for me not to be able to hunt it.

Totally expected xD, again that's how it has been for God-knows how many years. Last time you could lure to the edge of the map, behind the high cliff, and no one will ever see the boss, but I think last year or what, you can screenshot and report players.

 

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 the tanker, whose name will not be mentioned as well, said "happy now? you should check your attitude".

Happen all the time, I'm sick and tired of it too, all these old boss-hunting mechanism should change to be like modern online games. You should just reply "happy".

 

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What do you guys think? Did I do something wrong? 

Nope, rule in this server is all bosses are free for all. And you also arrived before spawning.

 

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Because in my honest opinion, the boss doesn't belong to a single party/clan

Truth be told, Draxos and Greedy belong to a single player or a single clan, just like Secret Lab Hellspawn belong to a single player or a single clan. All the end-game content in this game belong to a single player or a single clan. That's how sad this game is for many years ❤️

 

Alright, you did nothing wrong, move on.

[Nuniga 2]

One thing is for sure that you are not wrong.

But, not just Wartale, all other servers will be like that. The unity of everyone will be lost, when one or a group of players is capable of destroying the boss, without the need support of anyone, whom they do not desire and they want the spoils to belong to them, without any further dispute. 

Because they are always afraid that other players will take away the spoils gained from the boss, while they have put a lot of effort to kill the boss, , and that is what happens to you if you can also control and Destroy the boss alone. And make sure you feel unhappy and always feel scared when other players help you defeat the boss.

 

And the advice for you is : 

- Take control of the boss ( if u want hunt boss map 136 and 140 need : 1 ms tank boss -  2 or 3 killer, can is ms auto or as killer - 1 pris buff > The boss kill time will be shortened if you have multiple killers )

-At that time, you will kill the boss, without need paying attention to the complaints of those who want to monopolize the boss.

- If you do not control the boss, then you have to accept the fact I just mentioned

- Good luck .

[Clem 1,244]

Hello,

 

that happen to me too, during Draxos boss, & I would like to share what happen.

 

When I come to kill boss, everyone start to out from the spawn & start to go ricarten.

 

Its not like I was afk since I was killing boss.

 

Instead of playing for fun, people take it too seriously. 

 

Its stupid because this game, is made to play together. & that what I’m looking when I’m playing here.

 

I’ll tell the 2 clans that have done it with me : BH & CL.

 

It’s a shame from that huge clan to do it with people that must have a fair play values.

 

So now, I just go hunt boss rarely, so I don’t meet this kind of behavior.

 

Clem.

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Clem

[bigpro 148]

lol boss is free for every one

but when team of bosses come with tanker + login with many archers and some ppl come with 1 acc and take a 50% chance loot  why they should stay ?

you guys can go make an a team find one tanker find some killers and go do this!

as boss is free and if i go kill bossses with my team tanker + killers and some ppl come to loot i am free to leave also i dont have to kill with ppl i dont want that is 

boss is free you can go kill with all server

and the team can just leave the boss for you if they wont kill toghter 

[Clem 1,244]

38 minutes ago, bigpro said:

lol boss is free for every one

but when team of bosses come with tanker + login with many archers and some ppl come with 1 acc and take a 50% chance loot  why they should stay ?

you guys can go make an a team find one tanker find some killers and go do this!

as boss is free and if i go kill bossses with my team tanker + killers and some ppl come to loot i am free to leave also i dont have to kill with ppl i dont want that is 

boss is free you can go kill with all server

and the team can just leave the boss for you if they wont kill toghter 

Here we go Avi. 

 

You are the one that leave yeah ! 

 

So you want us to make a team but all server is hunting draxos with a team : so where other hunt boss ? 

That is to say your first argument is invalid. 

Beside that, yeah, if we are killing the boss we deserve to take the drop as you do.

 

You talk about team? But you guys are using 10 chars at once.

we don’t have the same meaning of the word TEAM ... 

 

I give you the definition in case you don’t know it exactly : 

 

“working together for a common purpose, who must rely on each other to achieve mutually defined results.” 

 

In other words, it’s when you are more than 1 people.

 

You choice to log 10 chars to hunt the boss instead of playing with a TEAM as you said.

 

 

So yeah you’re free to leave the spawn but it’s totally pathetic. Because at the end, it’s a game, just for fun, & no one have fun this way.

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Clem

[thisisrauldo 830]

35 minutes ago, Clem said:

we don’t have the same meaning of the word TEAM ... 

 

I give you the definition in case you don’t know it exactly : 

 

“working together for a common purpose, who must rely on each other to achieve mutually defined results.” 

 

In other words, it’s when you are more than 1 people.

 

You choice to log 10 chars to hunt the boss instead of playing with a TEAM as you said.

 

 

So yeah you’re free to leave the spawn but it’s totally pathetic. Because at the end, it’s a game, just for fun, & no one have fun this way.

 

? DING DING DING DING DIIING ? RIGHT ANSWER 

[bigpro 148]

2 hours ago, Clem said:

Here we go Avi. 

 

You are the one that leave yeah ! 

 

So you want us to make a team but all server is hunting draxos with a team : so where other hunt boss ? 

That is to say your first argument is invalid. 

Beside that, yeah, if we are killing the boss we deserve to take the drop as you do.

 

You talk about team? But you guys are using 10 chars at once.

we don’t have the same meaning of the word TEAM ... 

 

I give you the definition in case you don’t know it exactly : 

 

“working together for a common purpose, who must rely on each other to achieve mutually defined results.” 

 

In other words, it’s when you are more than 1 people.

 

You choice to log 10 chars to hunt the boss instead of playing with a TEAM as you said.

 

 

So yeah you’re free to leave the spawn but it’s totally pathetic. Because at the end, it’s a game, just for fun, & no one have fun this way.

 

 

 

belive me i whould go hunt all alone without any team go loot as you do what i pick it mine that best for me i am pro looter but you know what? 

when pm/cl see me? even if 40% life they leave

anyone wont go hunt with me so ye i do the same i join to team ppl and buy more acc

but if staff can make bosses without range health so it good no need tanker we go kill all ppl that will die in the end and every one happy

but you cannot blame ppl that login 15acc + tanker and one ppl come and take 50% of drop when they work so  hard..

[bigpro 148]

i like the old Wartale

when all ppl go exp toghter

and not 5 char with 1 ppl all auto no speak no talk that bored

go hunt boss when youk now all drop 100% of your that bored

i love old pt

when go hunt bosses with many ppl and few ppl lucky to pick some..

when 6friend ppl go exp togh and enjoy to talk 

that not here and we all know that 

[BBuddy~ 203]

54 minutes ago, bigpro said:

i like the old Wartale

when all ppl go exp toghter

and not 5 char with 1 ppl all auto no speak no talk that bored

go hunt boss when youk now all drop 100% of your that bored

i love old pt

when go hunt bosses with many ppl and few ppl lucky to pick some..

when 6friend ppl go exp togh and enjoy to talk 

that not here and we all know that 

You sound so hypocrite saying this. In your very last reply in this thread you said that YOU agree with the fact that if you log a tanker and 5 killers in you have the right to get the drops, and now you say that you like the old days when people played together?

 

Either you have one personality for each one of your accounts, or you are just completely crazy.

[GAVIAO. 186]

The only problem is that guy luring the boss away to noone find it  LOL dirty as fuc*
But i undertand him (you problem undertand too) he's bought many acc to hunt and he has a great pc to use virtual machines/macros to hunt.(if it's illegal, take some ss and report him)
i'd get mad too if someone came after i log 7 acc to kill the boss, but i wouldn't leave or lure the boss away. He's just an immature boy

 

[marce2125 107]

It's easy just make like old one, 1 acc for PC, and nobody can make 10 acc for exp or hunting.

The staff doesn't want because the server can be empty in cities so, why don't maps like HG, you can't enter with 2 acc, so you can log many acc as you want in cities but you can't leave the city with more than 1.

With this is the end of boss hunting with 1 guy with 10 acc, is the end of exping in exp maps 1 guy with 6 acc, even for party quest.

Same system that prevent in hg enter with 2 acc.

[diemurd 487]

avi is not wrong, and it can be good for u. If they leave just call your team and hunt, they are not obligated to stay.

[xunahyo 180]

 

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So you want us to make a team but all server is hunting draxos with a team : so where other hunt boss ? 

That is to say your first argument is invalid. 

Beside that, yeah, if we are killing the boss we deserve to take the drop as you do.

 

You talk about team? But you guys are using 10 chars at once.

we don’t have the same meaning of the word TEAM ... 

 

Lol. I didn't want to comment anymore because Wartale tend to give me warning points, but this is so on point Rofl. 

 

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You sound so hypocrite saying this. In your very last reply in this thread you said that YOU agree with the fact that if you log a tanker and 5 killers in you have the right to get the drops, and now you say that you like the old days when people played together?

You need to know Bigpro before you can understand what he is trying to say, he is always very direct in his comment. When he just joined Wartale 2 years ago, he only bought 1 character, and he did form parties to kill bosses, and really PARTY with a lot other players from different countries, he was good, he was actively finding new mates to party up and hunt Draxos,

 

BUT as we all know finding people to help you kill Draxos is hard because it's easier for him to buy a lot of accounts and do it himself, and not just him, several others too, and slowly this group of players who own a lot of accounts start to have this multiple-accounts-solo-boss culture, and they all hate each other for joining Draxos / Greedy, they love to kill the boss on their own and get the loot for themselves, that is why you see a tanker + many archers + one priestess killing Draxos / Greedy, and when they will ask you to go away, 

 

You go to the boss on time, and you see a player owning so many accounts stay there waiting boss to spawn and ask you to fuck off, how do you feel? is this even a game? I know the feeling, I hunted Draxos Greedy a lot of times with my friends, I never solo it too, maybe I tried but I never did it, because too boring to play solo.

 

That's why I always suggest that Boss Drop Mechanic be changed like other modern online MMO games. But T5 not released, Project Zues don't know progress to where, in-game Maps still not there, new Quests not there, and they just absorb a bunch of players from the other server, probably more donators, but still I don't know, shrug**

 

Anyway Bigpro isn't wrong saying that this is how everyone is doing it, because eventually when you are rich enough by whatever means, you will want to monopolize Draxos, that's human nature, and not just Bigpro, several other players do it too,  Ah Ah, I know Clem, you wana say fun, but that is how this group of players find their own fun.

 

And Bigpro also isn't wrong saying that he love play in in a group and have fun chatting and killing, because he did, he did when he just joined the server owning 1 character back in 2016, he was actively calling for Draxos in trade chat in 2016 and 2017, it just that he saw and learnt how several other players are doing it, and he copied them and do it himself,

 

So I believe the problem isn't the players, but Wartale himself, fking I always said Boss Mechanic be changed, but fking everytime I go to Draxos I see 1 tanker + 10 archer, and asked me to "fk off", "go away", "no share", go other server", "go away noob", and I instant log off, and go play other games, fk this shit Wartale.

 

Wartale gona give me another warning point, I knew it. ❤️

[thisisrauldo 830]

1 hour ago, diemurd said:

avi is not wrong, and it can be good for u. If they leave just call your team and hunt, they are not obligated to stay.

 

oh, ofc they aren't obligated to stay, but you probably think that they will, right? I mean, when you're doing DIQ/exping on SL HS, and everyone is leaving, the tanker doesnt just core out of the place before eveyone else, right? of course, he can, but that's so low from someone to do it... so, you think when you go hunt a boss, the person wouldnt do the same, just because someone else you dont know showed up to kill it too with you. Besides that, sometimes you just wanna meet new people/your friends arent online when the boss spawns... ?

[diemurd 487]

1 minute ago, thisisrauldo said:

 

oh, ofc they aren't obligated to stay, but you probably think that they will, right? I mean, when you're doing DIQ/exping on SL HS, and everyone is leaving, the tanker doesnt just core out of the place before eveyone else, right? of course, he can, but that's so low from someone to do it... so, you think when you go hunt a boss, the person wouldnt do the same, just because someone else you dont know showed up to kill it too with you. Besides that, sometimes you just wanna meet new people/your friends arent online when the boss spawns... ?

They would never do the same as when you go exp, when you are hunting bosses there is only one prize and it can go only to one person. So its a fight over it, not a common gain for all.

[thisisrauldo 830]

2 minutes ago, diemurd said:

They would never do the same as when you go exp, when you are hunting bosses there is only one prize and it can go only to one person. So its a fight over it, not a common gain for all.

 

oh,  but how do we do when you're going with other people, i mean, with friends? you share the drop (when u sell it, idk) and the coins, no? it sounds a bit common gain to me 

Edited August 22, 2018 by thisisrauldo

[diemurd 487]

 

Just now, thisisrauldo said:

 

oh,  but how do we do when you're going with other people, i mean, your friends? you share the drop (when u sell it, idk) and the coins, no? it sounds a bit common gain to me 

When we go as a team, we sell drops and share coins to every party member, but you cant expect rivals or people you dont know to do the same.

[thisisrauldo 830]

7 minutes ago, diemurd said:

 

When we go as a team, we sell drops and share coins to every party member, but you cant expect rivals or people you dont know to do the same.

 

but u can always ask, right? ^^ I mean, I know there's some people here with a bad habit to say they will share the drops and in the end they dont, but  that's kinda weird, no? So, you're suggesting that everyone should make a group to kill a boss, even with another group already there?

Edited August 22, 2018 by thisisrauldo

[diemurd 487]

16 minutes ago, thisisrauldo said:

 

but u can always ask, right? ^^ I mean, I know there's some people here with a bad habit to say they will share the drops and in the end they dont, but  that's kinda weird, no? So, you're suggesting that everyone should make a group to kill a boss, even with another group already there?

Its more people than you think, sometimes you are partying in sl, and drop 138 or 140 many people loot and off pt. One time one ms from cl looted one sw 138 on my pt quit pt and even changed his nickname.

[diemurd 487]

Just now, diemurd said:

Its more people than you think, sometimes you are partying in sl, and drop 138 or 140 many people loot and off pt. One time one ms from cl looted one sw 138 on my pt quit pt and even changed his nickname.

In other words, we learned not to trust other players in this game