The Biggest Manifestation of the Arch

[luisfillipi1 13]

We are tired of asking for the archer to be balanced, so we are going to hold the biggest archer march ever seen in Wartale.

Everyone in favor of reevaluating the class in PvP.

Verkan ARES - 09/05 - 7pm Brasilia time

IF YOU ARE AN ARCHER, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE PRESENT!


 

[-Vodka- 688]

Hahahaha +1

[demolidor 30]

+1

[Kyubey 65]

Buffing AS is something we’ll never be able to discuss here in this forum. Just look at the thread from 2–3 months ago and how much whining it caused.

KS can solo HC.
BS can 1v5 EASILY.

But God forbid we want AS to deal damage that would be crossing the line.

+1 i want some news about the balancement

[lucasg21 55]

+1

 

[nameless10 208]

As need more nerf

Bs need rework , need more damage pvp

[starbuck 30]

-1

 

archers doing really nice dmg , making great kills. In top rankings in pvp weekly. You ask for buff, but you mean make it strongest class again.. i think archer is perfectly balanced.

[Mumu 44]

Here we go again same topic for the past 4 years (?)

Several suggestion have been made and all ignored, not even a “no can’t do” from staff. 
 

archers are ~sitting~ running ducks on pvp due to low defense hability since staff boosted atk ratting of every class some years ago. Back then, we had evade on our side, but now not even this. 
 

low hp formula & too high requirements for amor makes us lose a lot of points on agility having no chance competing in damage against any other class, even ata (which suffers from the same issue in my opinion).

 

on top of that on PVE we are stuck with bomb shot since forever, the slowest skill in game to the supposed to be the fastest class 🤡

overall: 

A)reduce str requirements for armor or better the hp formula 

B)add critical to dions eye which makes sense due to the skill description 

C)make arrow of rage a cast interval skill like PRS T5 lightening to boost DPS - we have nothing all other classes do except bs I think 

D)let golden falcon chain 100% of scout hawk atk rating, so its damage can be used on pvp

E)golden falcon should have AOE hp regen, which should be a little increased - wonderful for parties 

F) give back our previous range - that’s a dream I know 

G) add crit to solar arrow - this skill is useless as it is especially on pvp

H) phoenix speed should be passive 

 

Call me crazy 🤪 

Edited May 9 by Mumu

[Molaxx 354]

AS is preety OP, like atalanta and shall be that for ever. Howhever the thought may be hard nerf in pvp/pve both. How big is an ego of AS players to ask any type of buff? Like sewer... What a Clon? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Edited May 9 by Molaxx

[Zarkon 94]

Relax guys.

i think they are working in BIG patch/event, just give them few months/years more☺️

[sacerzuim 64]

Give up bro! 😉

[EliPortela 153]

You know what would solve your problem?
Change Class with the right coupon you still get 10% off, bro!
I SAID 10% OFF, BRUH!
RUN AND GET YOUR BS ONLY HERE WITH 10% OFF BRUUUHHHHH!!

[ace1 210]

AS players: 

- doesn't have pet

- needs a whole second tanker acc to go pve

- now tanker doesn't even receive exp anymore

 

Also AS players:

- we want PVP buff

[HollyShot 1,005]

I wonder how as is dominating the rankings every week but when you check the top archer is in #31 with the score 159/268 

anyway like someone said above, better option just change class, if u like ranger go atalanta is a great option, or if you don’t care just go brawler, mutant class

[Capybara 506]

I used to be an ATA class, then I switched to AS, and now I'm back to ATA.
Compared to ATA, the AS class is terrible — it takes a lot more damage and doesn't deal nearly as many hits.

 

And I'm not even talking just about PvP — even in PvE, hunting a boss with AS feels more tedious than with ATA (and that's considering the class uses more STM/MP than the others).

[luisfillipi1 13]

TODAYYYYYYYYYYYY
AFTER UPPRUNIII
CONCENTRATION IN VERKAN ARES

[SmokingSnake 75]

Are Atalantas allowed to join? 

[1 Soul 4 a char 8]

8 hours ago, Capybara said:

used to be an ATA class, then I switched to AS, and now I'm back to ATA.
Compared to ATA, the

Deserved, the life snake.

 

As for archer, phoenix shot or any skill with one instance dmg are extremely hard to balance, they are too slow to need 2 hits for a kill,thus, will need too much damage to make up for it, which result in a spam skill that can hit kill, so it's either OP or trash.

Edited May 9 by 1 Soul 4 a char

[WHATISAMAN? 41]

10 hours ago, Capybara said:

I used to be an ATA class, then I switched to AS, and now I'm back to ATA.
Compared to ATA, the AS class is terrible — it takes a lot more damage and doesn't deal nearly as many hits.

 

And I'm not even talking just about PvP — even in PvE, hunting a boss with AS feels more tedious than with ATA (and that's considering the class uses more STM/MP than the others).

Nerf ATA to balance AS, ty bro

[ChookaPow 227]

On 5/8/2025 at 9:29 PM, luisfillipi1 said:

7pm Brasilia time

cute

please come to palácio do planalto protest, vietnamese and philipine brothers!

[TigerShark22 498]

On 5/9/2025 at 12:29 AM, luisfillipi1 said:

We are tired of asking for the archer to be balanced, so we are going to hold the biggest archer march ever seen in Wartale.

Everyone in favor of reevaluating the class in PvP.

Verkan ARES - 09/05 - 7pm Brasilia time

IF YOU ARE AN ARCHER, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE PRESENT!


 

Upload a video of ur test too.

 

Yet from my experience - AS doesn't need a buff. You can't expect Phoenix shot to hitkill low hp classes. It's damage is literally so much higher than FS's AC, on par with FS's destroyer ( damage per hit). You are really asking for too much. Most AS don't even use ideal 1v1 builds ( HP+ agi) and complain about their archer with team fights builds on why they have hard time.

 

 

Also- it's not that AS is weak. It's more that ATA is completely broken. Ata is even above FS in 1v1 as a freaking ranger, but she outperforms him completely in team fights/ SW.

 

 

The inferiority you feel as an archer against atas- everyone else but BS feel it too.

 

 

 

On 5/10/2025 at 2:06 AM, 1 Soul 4 a char said:

Deserved, the life snake.

 

As for archer, phoenix shot or any skill with one instance dmg are extremely hard to balance, they are too slow to need 2 hits for a kill,thus, will need too much damage to make up for it, which result in a spam skill that can hit kill, so it's either OP or trash.

No. PS is not slow at all. 2 hits of it are as fast as AC of FS. Which is faster than a GC/ DC of KS and GS of MS. 

 

The only reason it's not showed to GM in a speed over time output test, is that they take a minute to measure how much skills they can fire with each class. Problem is: in PvP a clash is never that long. PvP is about burst, and no one cares about high SP/MP cost because you can stun ur enemy and pot/ put some distance between them and you .

( Time ur escape according to enemy. They either have CD or a short range dash usually). 

Meaning the way the devs measure PS is false, in the context of PvP ( for PvE it's fine, but need to measure overall DPS there. For PvP it's not correct, because there are much  more activities than attacking towers in SW, when pretty much no one cares).

 

 

[starbuck 30]

4 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Upload a video of ur test too.

 

Yet from my experience - AS doesn't need a buff. You can't expect Phoenix shot to hitkill low hp classes. It's damage is literally so much higher than FS's AC, on par with FS's destroyer ( damage per hit). You are really asking for too much. Most AS don't even use ideal 1v1 builds ( HP+ agi) and complain about their archer with team fights builds on why they have hard time.

 

 

Also- it's not that AS is weak. It's more that ATA is completely broken. Ata is even above FS in 1v1 as a freaking ranger, but she outperforms him completely in team fights/ SW.

 

 

The inferiority you feel as an archer against atas- everyone else but BS feel it too.

 

 

 

No. PS is not slow at all. 2 hits of it are as fast as AC of FS. Which is faster than a GC/ DC of KS and GS of MS. 

 

The only reason it's not showed to GM in a speed over time output test, is that they take a minute to measure how much skills they can fire with each class. Problem is: in PvP a clash is never that long. PvP is about burst, and no one cares about high SP/MP cost because you can stun ur enemy and pot/ put some distance between them and you .

( Time ur escape according to enemy. They either have CD or a short range dash usually). 

Meaning the way the devs measure PS is false, in the context of PvP ( for PvE it's fine, but need to measure overall DPS there. For PvP it's not correct, because there are much  more activities than attacking towers in SW, when pretty much no one cares).

 

 

 

 

well said. I think archers sometimes see themselves as weak and needs buffs because they often compare themselves to the atlanta ranger class, which is not good because atlanta is very unbalanced and OP can 1v1 most classes and win

Edited May 17 by starbuck
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